Commons leader Lucy Powell says Tories should be attacking past government over Sentencing Council guidelines, not this one
Lucy Powell, the leader of the Commons, defended the government’s position on the new Sentencing Council guidelines (see 9.46am) during business questions in the Commons a few minutes ago.
She was responding to the Conservative MP Luke Evans who said:
When the law favours identity over principle, it ceases to be justice at all. Magna Carta taught us that.
So will [Powell] ensure that the justice secretary comes to the house to ensure that under this government sentencing [doesn’t] become about who you are, not what you have done?
Powell replied:
The sentencing guidelines were consulted on under [the Conservative] government last year. They were not ruled out. They were developed and consulted on under [the Conservative] government. The current justice secretary, the remarkable and formidable justice secretary, has made absolutely clear her position on that. And she’s written to the Sentencing Council.
So perhaps [Evans] might be better to refect on the actions of his own government, rather than attacking this one.
PA Media has filed some of the remarks from Micheál Martin, the taoiseach (Irish PM) at the start of the UK-Ireland summit this morning and after the business breakfast earlier. Here are some of the points he made.
You have borne the centre of gravity and stability to that situation which I think is appreciated, and I want you to know that.
He also thanked Starmer for “resetting the dynamic relationship between the United Kingdom government and the Irish government”.
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Martin said Northern Ireland has great “untapped potential”. Recalling what he and Keir Starmer were told during the breakfast meeting with business leaders, he said:
It was interesting this morning, a number of business people said the greatest untapped potential is Northern Ireland, economically, very interesting.
And that’s something I think we can work on, move forward as two governments making sure we realise that potential for all those in Ireland and we do it in a kind of co-operative way and develop it as much as we possibly can.
And Starmer said, given the international insecurity, a strong UK-Ireland relationship was particularly important. He said:
As we sit here today, I think we would all agree that the world is more uncertain and unstable than it has been for a very long time and there are huge benefits to strengthening our friendship and working together on geopolitical challenges.
Starmer said the summit would focus on growth, domestic security, and the transition to net zero.
UK and Ireland announce deal connecting offshore windfarms to energy networks
The UK and Ireland have announced closer collaboration on subsea energy infrastructure to “harness the full potential” of the Irish and Celtic seas as part of ongoing efforts to reset post-Brexit relations, Lisa O’Carroll reports.
Starmer says UK-Ireland relationship has never reached its ‘full potential’, but now’s time to change that
Keir Starmer said the UK and Ireland are opening the “next chapter” in their relationship as ministers from both countries gathered for a summit in Liverpool.
He and his Irish counterpart, Micheál Martin, attended a business event at Liverpool’s Albert Dock this morning, before the main UK-Ireland summit got under way.
Starmer said:
We are having this summit, we are embarking on the next chapter for our two countries, binding them ever closer together in circumstances where we’re living in an ever more volatile world.
I think that a reset, bringing our countries closer together, is the obvious and right thing to do in any event.
In a speech at a reception last night, Starmer said he did not believe that the relationship between the UK and Ireland had “ever reached its full potential” and he said he wanted to change that.
I don’t believe the relationship between the UK and Ireland has ever reached its full potential.
And I’m delighted that now with this summit we’re going to change all that. What an opportunity.
Martin said:
It’s an extremely important relationship for Ireland and when the UK economy does well, the Irish economy does well.
So as far as we are concerned this is a joint effort and endeavour and in that context, as I’ve said to the prime minister, anything we can do to facilitate greater harmony and access to the EU markets the better, in terms of goods ad services.
Stephen Powis to step down as NHS England medical director
Prof Sir Stephen Powis, NHS England’s national medical director who played a key role in advising ministers and the public during the Covid pandemic, will stand down this summer, Denis Campbell reports.
Bank and building society users hit by 33 days of outages in two years, say MPs
Customers at Britain’s major banks and building societies suffered the equivalent of more than one month’s worth of IT failures in the last two years, MPs have said.
Badenoch says government should change law to allow it to overrule Sentencing Council
Kemi Badenoch has said the government should change the law to allow it to overrule the Sentencing Council. She posted this on social media this morning.
If the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood doesn’t want a two tier criminal justice system she should change the law and the Conservatives will back her.
Ministers should decide not quangos. Labour need to grip this.
Sentencing Council chair defends new guidelines criticised by government and Tories
Yesterday Lord Justice William Davis, chairman of the Sentencing Council for England and Wales, issued a statement defending the new guidelines criticised by Robert Jenrick and Shabana Mahmood. He said:
One of the purposes of the revised Imposition of community and custodial sentences guideline is to make sure that the courts have the most comprehensive information available so that they can impose a sentence that is the most appropriate for the offender and the offence and so more likely to be effective. The guideline emphasises the crucial role played by pre-sentence reports (PSRs) in this process and identifies particular cohorts for whom evidence suggests PSRs might be of particular value to the court. The reasons for including groups vary but include evidence of disparities in sentencing outcomes, disadvantages faced within the criminal justice system and complexities in circumstances of individual offenders that can only be understood through an assessment.
PSRs provide the court with information about the offender; they are not an indication of sentence. Sentences are decided by the independent judiciary, following sentencing guidelines and taking into account all the circumstances of the individual offence and the individual offender.
Robert Jenrick and Shabana Mahmood accused of ‘Trumpism’ over sentencing guidelines criticism
Good morning. Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, has been accused by a Labour peer and prominent KC of “Trumpism”. Perhaps that is not surprising. But, in an interview on the Today programme this morning, Helena Kennedy suggested that the accusation also applied to her Labour colleague, the justice secretary, Shabana Mahmood. This is the latest development in a row that started when the Sentencing Council published new guidelines, taking effect from April. These say that, for certain types of offenders, a pre-sentence report will normally be considered necessary for offenders in certain categories.
In the Commons yesterday, during a statement about court sitting days, Jenrick asked about the new guidelines. Because reading a pre-sentence report often leads to a judge giving a reduced sentence (because it might explain mitigating factors in considerable detail), Jenrick said:
Why is the justice secretary enshrining this double standard—this two-tier approach to sentencing? It is an inversion of the rule of law. Conservative members believe in equality under the law; why does she not?
The phrase “two-tier approach” elevated this from what might otherwise have been an arcane policy row into Daily Mail splash material. The allegation that Britain runs a two-tier justice system biased against white people has become a popular rightwing allegation that circulates very widely on social media, partly because it can be applied to various stories (the policing of Gaza protests, the treatment of non-crime hate incidents, grooming gangs) and partly because you can rhyme two-tier with Keir.
Shabana Mahmood, the justice secretary, could spot the danger, and in her reply to Jenrick she said:
As somebody from an ethnic minority background, I do not stand for any differential treatment before the law for anyone. There will never be a two-tier sentencing approach under my watch or under this Labour government.
Later in the day, as it became clear that the story was not going away Mahmood announced that she would be writing to the Sententing Council to “register my displeasure” and “recommend reversing this change to the guidance”. She said:
The Sentencing Council is entirely independent. These guidelines do not represent my views or the views of this government.
But, because Mahmood does not seem to have the power to order the Sentencing Council to change the guidelines, Jenrick has been on the airwaves escalating his claim that Labour is over-seeing a “two-tier” justice system. He does not seem to have been deterred by interviewers pointing out that the Sentencing Council published these guidelines following a consultation that took place when the Conservatives were in power.
Speaking to Times Radio, Jenrick claimed Christian, white men were being penalised.
What worries me about these sentencing guidelines [is] … they say that you are less likely to get a custodial sentence because your case would be handled through a pre-sentencing report commissioned by a judge, if you’re a woman, if you’re trans, if you’re neurodiverse, if you’re an ethnic minority, if you’re from a minority faith group, which presumably means anyone who isn’t Christian.
Essentially Christian and straight white men, amongst other groups, will be treated differently to the rest of society.
Speaking on the Today programme, Kennedy said a “well informed court” would always provide a better outcome. She also said that a two-tier system of justice was already in place, because some groups are disproprotionately more likely to receive custodial sentences than others. The Sentencing Council guidelines are intended to address this.
Kennedy went on:
The real issue is, the system at the moment, all the evidence shows that it’s disproportionately doing unfairness to certain sections of our society.
Women are certainly in that category. Young people from ethnic minorities are in that category. And so a court knowing more about them is a good thing.
Now, the independent Sentencing Council is made up of very, very skilled people from different backgrounds, and the research, the evidence, is there.
Do we want better outcomes in our courts? Of course, we do. Do we want them for all? Yes.
But this is Jenrick introducing Trumpism into our system.
When it was put to Kennedy that the justice secretary agrees with Jenrick on this, Kennedy said she was “very disappointed” by her Mahmood’s response. That seemed to be “a step back”, she said. She went on:
This is about wokeness. They want to say this is about being woke. It’s not. It’s about basing the system on real evidence of where there are failures, and knowing more helps to get better outcomes.
Here is the agenda for the day.
Morning: Keir Starmer and Micheál Martin, the taoiseach (Irish PM), attend the UK-Ireland summit.
9.30am: Pat McFadden, the Cabinet Office minister, takes questions in the Commons.
After 10.30am: Lucy Powell, the leader of the Commons, makes a statement on next week’s Commons business.
Late morning: Starmer is due to make a defence-related visit in the north-west of England where he will speak to the media.
Lunchtime: Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, is expected to speak to broadcasters on a visit.
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